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Feger is not online. Last active: 3/15/2007 6:10:30 AM Feger
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Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 24 Jul 2004 02:28 PM
Its a whole new game: This is a best practice sport plan.

Materials needed:A volleyball court, two indoor soccer goals (6 x 12 feet), and a volleyball. Place the goals 8 to 10 feet behind each end of the court and centered. Service areas are on either side of the goals.

This sport is played as a community sport, interscholastic and intramural sport, during P.E. classes, and for lunch time activity.

Students should have good volleyball skills and a basic knowledge of both the side-out and rallypoint scoring systems of volleyball.

This game is fast and furious. A game is 10 points or a goal, whichever comes first. When a goal is scored, game is over. The team that scored the goal wins the game regardless of team scores. If a goal is not scored, only the service team can win a game.

There are five or six players on a team, goalie included. The goalie isnt allowed to catch a ball to try to keep it out of the goal. Only one person is allowed to defend the goal off the serve. Other than that, a goal is scored under the same circumstances as in soccer. A goal can be scored even if a ball rolls or bounces into a goal.

If the first serve of any player rotating into the servers position is bad, his/her team loses one point and the serve. If the team doesnt have any points and a players first serve is bad, then their opponents receive a point and the serve. After the first serve, if a team makes a bad serve, a team loses the serve, the service team's scoring advantage, and no points are earned. This is the side-out feature

Points can be scored by either team off the serve or during any subsequent play action. This is a rally point feature.

Two points will be awarded to the service team, if off the serve, a ball lands on the receiving team's court untouched.

The service team has the first three hit option of play. The receiving team has two hits off the serve to send the ball back over the net. After the ball has crossed over the net the third time, both teams have the three hit option play.

In a game when neither team scored a goal, the service team has closure. Only a team with serve, that can serve the ball over the net, and score a point/s off a served ball, can win a game. This is a side-out feature.

There is no two point margin rule to win a set, because when working with this kind of offensive and defensive scoring system, an anomalie developed that makes the two point margin of victory rule of volleyball a repetitively redundant feature. That means a service team has closure and the game takes care of its self. (No artificial assimulation needed).

There is a very intense competitive challenge between the server of one team and the goalie of the other. If a ball touches the net on the serve it is considered a bad serve.

My students like it because of its unpredictablility. A game can end with one serve, a new team comes on court, plays to ten points or a goal, and then another team comes to court...and so on and so on.

Students are waiting for me at lunch time...if they want to play volleyball, they can play at the other court....but, you know what.....when we are playing this game, there is no other team net sport played. They are either signing up a team to play, or making up a new team for another game...and so on ..and.. so on.....................And, the above descriptive activity, is only an abbreviated version of the sport's overtime system of play. The real game is played with four quarters of competition. In the regular version of the game, a goal is worth three points.

Move the game into mach speed:
For the more advanced team net players, the game would include the two point ace, the two point backcourt kee, and two point optional xunk serve.

regards:

Jim Feger
Marianas High School
P.O. Box 501481
Chalan Kanoa, Saipan
MP 96950 USA

rocball@saipan.com
http://www.saipan.com/business/rocball/index.htm
Feger is not online. Last active: 3/15/2007 6:10:30 AM Feger
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 11 Jul 2005 01:16 PM

And, we use a side-out philosophy system of competitive balances where the service team has scoring advantage. The receiving team can score off the serve and during volley, but only a team in service has set/game closure. There is no two point margin to win, and a ball has to be served over the net, without touching the net, by a team to win a set/game.

"Rule of Differentiation"

1. The serve

2. The receiving team has two hits off the serve to send the ball back over
the net.

3. The service team has the first three hit option of play.

4. After the the third time the ball has crossed over the net, both teams have
a three hit option of play.

5. A team doesn't earn points off a bad serve. If the first serve of a player rotating into the server's position is bad, his/her team loses a point and the serve: Its a penalty.The serve is the catylist of this sport. It is the service team's responsibility to launch this sport into competitive challenges. It is the serve that defines the identity of a team's situation; a team in service is in volley, offense, and attack; a team on receiving is in rally and defense.

5. And, a variation of this has been played where after the serve and the two hit play of the receiving team off the serve, the service team has a 5 hit option of play versus the 3 hit option for the receiving team during volley. This tips the scoring advantage even more in favor of the service team.
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 11 Jul 2005 02:53 PM
Wow, this sounds great. Could this game be used to strengthen volleyball skills for an organized team?
Feger is not online. Last active: 3/15/2007 6:10:30 AM Feger
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 11 Jul 2005 03:11 PM
Yes, and there is a very intense competitive challenge between the server and the goalie. Good servers refine their skills and drill the ball right at the face of the goal. Because, this is where a server can score one, two, or three points.
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 12 Jul 2005 01:33 PM
Backcourt Scoring:

The center back player of each team can score two points for his/her team when he/she scores from behind the ten foot line. In our version it is the person in the goalie's position that makes this play. The CP/Goalie is not allowed to make contact with a ball inside the ten foot line. A CP/Goalie can jump up, spike the ball from behind the ten foot line, and after hitting the ball land inside the ten foot line, but must immediately retreat to the backcourt area of play.

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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 16 Jul 2005 06:21 PM
Serve and Closure:

An offensive and defensive, multiple point scoring game is played under a quarter/set system. The quarter/set system of play was developed by combining and modifying two different methods of measuring game time. The clock system in which teams win by totaled points scored in a specific amount of time. And, the set system of play where the winner of a game is based on the amount time it takes to win a certain number of sets.

In an offensive and defensive scoring game, the serve is the catalyst that precipitates competitive action. The serve characterizes possession, offensive identity, control, and the position of advantage. The serve is what starts the competitive action to begin a game, and it is the process in which the beginning of the end of competition is completed. After the serve, the competitive nature of a team net sport game with offensive and defensive scoring is customed to quick, erratic, and unpredictable sequences of activity. This makes it a difficult, if not awkward, task of organizing a game under the rules of a clocked system of play. However, their are features of a clocked system of play that can be incorporated into an offensive and defensive scoring team net sport.

In a sport where a game is divided by quarters of play and organized by the clock, the points a team scores, is measured against the expiration time of each quarter and the game. The team that scores the most points within the limits and definitions of playing time, will win a regular game of play.

One of the advantages of a sport that is organized under the clocked system, is that certain plays, offensive and defensive strategies, team signals...etc, can be worked out before competition begins. This is done to manipulate or take advantage of the known and measurable limitations of game time. These are some of the mechanics of a clocked game and it works well where a team wins by total points scored. The difference between team scores at any one point of a clocked game, is a measure of a team's success. What this does, is it creates an atmosphere of sustained anxiety and anticipation from the time the game begins until it is finished.

However, there are disadvantages to the clocked game that need to be avoided. Sports organized under the clocked system of play, have one common weak trait, the lopsided score. A game can, for all practical purposes, be finished in three quarters of play or less. In a clocked sport, if by the end of the third quarter, the difference between team scores is so much that there is no sensible or sensational competitive action, or series of competitive actions that will alter or change its unavoidable conclusion, the game implodes and becomes an anticlimactic experience.

In a sport where a game is organized by sets, a team's playing time is measured against how long it takes to play for a fixed number of points per set, for a majority of a designated number of sets. The team that wins each set by a certain difference between scores and wins the majority of a designated number of sets, wins the game. However, in sports where sets determine the winners or losers of a game, a team can actually outscore their opponents in total points and still lose the game.

A quarter/set system of play has been developed to counterpoise the pitfalls under which the present and traditional methods of both the clock and set system were organized. In the quarter/set system of play, the points a team scored in each of the four sets is recorded and totaled at the end of the fourth set. The importance of calculating the total scores, is that they are significant references that best characterizes sorts of predictable outcome, definitive moments, and conclusive strategies. The quarter/set system of play has an irreversible measurement of action parallel to that of sports organized by timed intervals of play. However, in a team net sport where competition could start and stop off a bad serve, or end in two hits and three seconds of play, there is a different momentum and course of expectations to be taken under consideration.

The mechanics of a quarter/set system game have been worked-out so that a team's success can be measured by how many points it scored in each set, the total points it scored in a game, and how the fourth set is played. In a quarter/set system of play, a team cannot win a game in a losing set and a team cannot win a game if they haven't outscored their opponents. In the quarter/set system of play, a team must outscore its opponent's after four sets of play and win the fourth set in order to "Juice Out", (win the game). This is the combination of circumstances and the method under which the elements of quarter/set system of play functions, maintains, and provides competitive interest from the beginning to the end of a game. And, if neither team juices out, the game goes into overtime.
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 21 Jul 2005 07:34 PM
A Match Up Questions !


1.What happens when volleyball and ping pong are combined into one sport?

and

2.What happens when volleyball and soccer are combined into one sport?

(A). One of them has integrated a system of competitive features based on a balance of challenges.

and

(B). The other has a system of competitive features subsized with artificial animated activities.
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 17 Aug 2005 01:26 PM
JUICING OUT:

A game is divided into a four "quarter sets."

A team has to outscore its opponents just like it was playing a basketball game.

A team has to win the fourth set to win the game.

A team has to have the serve to win the game.

A team's score after four sets of play must add up to more points scored than its opponent's four sets of points scored.

A team cannot win a game if it doesn't outscore its opponents after four sets of play.

And, a team cannot win a game if it doesn't win the fourth set of play.

To JUICE OUT, a team must win the fourth set of play with more points scored than their opponents.

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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 29 Apr 2006 05:05 PM
Mwaliyas repeat as Rocball champions

By Shan Seman
Reporter

Wednesday, April 05, 2006

Defending champion Mwaliyas went out and accomplished their goal as the team won its second straight title by beating Ochobu in Game 5 of the 2006 World Organized Rocball High School League championship series.

The Marianas High School Gymnasium was again home to intense competition as both teams played their best with the title on the line.

Mwaliyas held a slim 7-6 lead in the third set when action resumed on Day 2 of the match.

Having lost the first two sets, Ochobu was hungry and showed it as the team went on a 6-1 run to swing favor to their corner, 12-8. Mwaliyas responded with a kee by Darrel Roligat, 10-12, but Ramsey Sino gave Ochobu some breathing room as he smacked in a goal for a 15-10 lead.

Mwaliyas came storming back, though, and fought off set point. The defending champions took the lead, 16-15, and both teams took turns serving with set point until Ochobu was able to get through with a 20-19 victory.

The win was only by a point, resulting in Ochobu still trailing by 11 points, 39-50.

The tight battle carried over to the final set of regulation, which began with Shane Yamada knocking down a kee and Pedro Iguel connecting on a kill for a 3-0 Mwaliyas lead. Ochobu quickly tied the game on an ace by Sino, but another kee by Yamada and a kill by Quincy Johnson helped Mwaliyas regain advantage, 6-3.

With their fans cheering them on, Tarnes and Ichnis Kapwich responded with consecutive kees that gave Ochobu the lead, and the back and forth scoring carried on until the end of the set.

A kill by Sino gave Ochobu set point, 14-13, but Iguel came back with a kill of his own to tie the score and give Mwaliyas game point, 14-14.

Sino, however, came through with another kill and Ochobu was able to stay alive by forcing o-kon, 16-14.

Mwaliyas still had the upper hand, though, as the team still led, 64-55, at the end of regulation. With that, Mwaliyas only needed to win one set in overtime to claim the title while Ochobu had to win two sets to win the championship.

Up 3-2, Mwaliyas got a huge lift as Yamada served up a xunk and elected to subtract two points from Ochobu. Yamada scored another xunk and Mwaliyas was up 7-0 when Ochobu fired back and scored six straight points to pull within one, 6-7.

Johnson then came up big for Mwaliyas, blocking three kill attempts with the last one giving Mwaliyas a point for an 8-6 lead. Mwaliyas scored three points after and Sino stopped the spree with a kill, 9-11.

Ochobu finally pulled even at 13-13 courtesy of kills by Sino and David Tisa, but Mwaliyas was able to get back and Darrel Roligat came up with a big serve for the win, 16-14.

Mwaliyas won the first two sets on Monday-15-5 and 16-14.

Yamada finished as the game's heavy hitter with 18 points on seven kees and two xunks while Iguel finished with nine points on three kees and a goal.

Sino led Ochobu with 11 points courtesy of an ace, three kees, and a goal.

As reported earlier, Ochobu won a hard-fought Game 1 that was decided on the second set of o-kon, while Mwaliyas came back to win Game 2 after trailing through three sets.

Ochobu moved just one win away from dethroning Mwaliyas after winning Game 3 last Tuesday, 62-37, but was not able to close the series as Mwaliyas took Game 4 last Thursday, 67-43, to force the winner-take-all Game 5.
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 07 May 2006 04:14 PM
And, that's why there's Rocball

When W.G. Morgan invented volleyball back in 1895, he created a team net sport where the team in service had the advantage of the serve to score, and the team receiving had to work against the score for the advantage of the serve.

The intent of the original sideout scoring system is simple but pure. More importantly, it is a balance of challenges with different but equal competitive tasks.

With the implementation of rally scoring, either team can score points whether they are in the service or receiving position, and with or without making a volley. What it really does is allows both teams the advantages of volleyball's traditional side-out scoring system.

However, in rally scoring, the service team now has the task of serving a ball into a situation where the receiving team has three hits to set up a counter attack with at least four different ways in which to score or earn penalty points off the serve.

Would you ever imagine a basketball game with a rally point scoring system? A basketball game that would allow either team to earn points with or without scoring a basket?

Under rally scoring for basketball, whenever a player is called for traveling, the other team would earn a point. Whenever a player is called for double dribble or a three-second lane violation, the other team earns a point.

What if a game is tied with two seconds left to play, and a player takes a shot and misses? Under rally scoring, the other team would win. It becomes a game that wouldn't require a team to make a basket in order to earn the winning point.

This is what volleyball, using rallypoint scoring, has become.

Theoretically, teams could be tied at 20-20 without either team ever having served the ball successfully over the net.

What is the net value of this kind of performance? Nothing happened that represented any competitive action, and there should never have been any value accredited.

A team net sport played under the rules of rally scoring isn't volleyball. It's rallyball. And, rallyball is a game degenerated from volleyball with its roots of play founded in the Federation Internationale de Volleyball's philosophy of fallacy.

And, that's why there is Rocball
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Re: Its A Whole New Game
Posted: 25 Jun 2006 02:14 AM
Feger
Registered User Join Date: May 2005
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What do the following persons who have posted on www.volleyballforums.com have in common?

Rich
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Omnispiker

1. They have all posted to contents of Rocball
2. They know that Rocball is the first team net sport of this kind to implement offensive and defensive scoring.
3. They know that Rocball is the first team net sport of this kind to implement multiple point scoring.
4. They know that Rocball is the first team net sport of this kind to implement penalty point scoring.
5. They know that Rocball is the first team net sport of this kind to implement two point backcourt scoring.
6. They know that Rocball is the first team net sport of this kind to include vertical areas of scoring.
7. They know that Rocball is the first team net sport of this kind to develop a quarter/set system of play.
8. Every single one of the above persons who have posted remarks to Rocball were, either to young or unconcerned to think about changing volleyball from its traditional side-out form of play, to a more advanced form of competitive challenges in 1979/80.

9. But, these are not a reflection of ego, they are a description of facts that are documented, copyrighted, and set into action with over 20 years of seasonal league competition.

10. And, writing about the truth is not bragging, it’s enlightening.
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